Further Testing Shenanigans or Rambling About Forbidden Love?

To be fair, Forbidden Love is all we discuss these days so it’s natural that at some point we’d forget we were supposed to be testing a mod and idly chatter while Cael glared at us for an entire Skyrim day. We give River a compliment and go to visit my favourite encounter so shh, it still counts as beta testing!
If it isn’t clear, “the mod” we keep randomly talking about (or just start talking about something out of the blue) while disregarding Skyrim Romance Mod, which we did not write, is Forbidden Love. As has been mentioned before, it will take place in an entirely different “reality” to SRM so has nothing to do with it and Cael will have quite a lot of changes. Such as your first meeting with him being entirely different. What happened in SRM stays in SRM.

Back to the subject at hand though, Kale or Kay-ell? Nobody knows the answer, not the creator, not our VAs, not even my own father. (Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo) Which do you prefer?


I captured this in the wrong resolution so lighting issues and blurring prevailed but the next one (Part 3) will be a full 1920×1080 detailed video because I’ve fixed the lighting! Fingers crossed that YouTube doesn’t spit it out.

At least I didn’t de-forehead Bri this time, right?



By |2017-01-15T03:50:08+00:00November 5th, 2015|30 Comments


  1. Anonymous November 13, 2015 at 12:27 pm - Reply

    Here’s a complication for you… As a student of linguistics, I wondered if the “ae” was actually intended to be æ, in which case it might be pronounced like “Kell” (“eh”) or possibly “Cal”… (“a” as in “happy” or “Fan”).

  2. Kate owen November 6, 2015 at 12:27 pm - Reply

    Hope you guys try talk welsh next ep hahahahha :’D

    • AlassinSane November 6, 2015 at 12:30 pm - Reply

      We recorded it super quickly this morning and I totally forgot. REMIND ME WHEN WE DO ANIMATIONS. Ah well, ep 3 should be up in a bit!

      • Xevnglee November 6, 2015 at 1:54 pm - Reply

        just watched it and wondering if there is still no real option of saying “no” to the proposal. You kind of cut out the bit I was the most curious about.

        • AlassinSane November 6, 2015 at 2:10 pm - Reply

          Heh yeah it included a voice file I thought best for you guys to discover for yourselves. But no, there isn’t. You can tongue-in-cheek suggest to punch him.

          • Xevnglee November 6, 2015 at 2:23 pm - Reply

            damn.. I kind of don’t want to marry Bishop. I just want to stay Friends with Benefits forever. I guess I could just do what I did last time.. just not start the marriage quest by never selecting the dialogue option to start.
            But it would be fun to see his reaction to outright rejection.

            • AlassinSane November 6, 2015 at 2:54 pm - Reply

              Lol well yes, that would be the best thing. Why would Mara have included an option when it stops the mod progression permanently? It takes the completion of three different dialogues to get to it anyway.
              Although I imagine his reaction would be similar to when you refuse his demands of sex. Temper tantrum. Especially as he’s left emotionally exposed.

              • Xevnglee November 6, 2015 at 3:42 pm - Reply

                I think he’d be ever so slightly more hurt than angry. Doesn’t help that he has the emotional maturity of a grapefruit.
                And I would think of it as an alternate ending rather than stopping the progression. I’m just not a big fan of marriage. Bishop doesn’t seem the marrying type. I wanted to ask him if he was just saying that because it’s what he thought I wanted to hear.

                • AlassinSane November 7, 2015 at 3:58 am - Reply

                  Haha yes that’s true, but also anger because of the hurt. Hmm, I think the mindset of “mine” and owning you fits his character well enough. I suppose if you wanted to keep the option out of your game with no reminders of it, you could delete one of the encounters through the console before he has a scene with them.

                  • Xevnglee November 7, 2015 at 5:52 am - Reply

                    Yeah, that possessiveness and jealousy is really not attractive. I want to tell him that I’ll never belong /to/ him, but I might belong /with/ him if he’d drop that ridiculous hunter/prey act. A dragon does not fear a wolf.
                    I really think Bishop got more than he bargained for with the Dragonborn. She’s probably the only one who could safely handle him.

  3. Sila November 6, 2015 at 8:15 am - Reply

    Must be Kay-ell
    Kale sounds meaningless

  4. Ammie November 6, 2015 at 5:14 am - Reply

    I switch between the two (I’m from England). In the story that was posted about how Cael’s parents met didn’t his mother say she wanted to call him after his father’s brother Kale but said she’d spell it different?

    • AlassinSane November 6, 2015 at 7:04 am - Reply

      Yeah, that was back when most of us were still saying “kale” and I tried to cement the pronunciation with the story xD To bring it up to date with “kay-ell” I’d only need to change one word in it.
      “We’ll spell it differently.”
      “We’ll say it differently.”

  5. LittleSparrow November 6, 2015 at 5:09 am - Reply

    i think its Kay-ell. also really looking forward to both mods i usually avoid commenting and just stalk from the shadows but the closer we get and the more i see the more excited i get. I’ve been following SRM from when it was first released more or less. and seeing how far its come and seeing the little community evolving around it is awesome.

    you are all doing such a fantastic job <3

  6. Ruru November 5, 2015 at 10:40 pm - Reply

    I’ve always said it Kay-Ell, not Kale XD

  7. CJ November 5, 2015 at 9:28 pm - Reply

    Oh! Forgot to add this to my last comment. I like it pronounced Kay-ell mostly because it reminds me of the name Castiel (my favorite niaive angel. [sigh] Ah, Cas, if only someone would add him and the Winchester bros to Skyrim…. I would DIE) <3

  8. CJ November 5, 2015 at 9:25 pm - Reply

    Um… 1. Kay-ell, definitely. Kale is not a name it is a veggi, however Cael (Kay-ell) is an angelic name.
    Kale just sounds… well, honestly it sounds stupid to me. It would ruin the entire mod for me.
    But I love watching your vids! You guys are hilarious! 🙂

  9. Anonymous November 5, 2015 at 6:53 pm - Reply


  10. Sandra November 5, 2015 at 6:34 pm - Reply

    Like Kay-ell myself, especially when the back story tells you who he is named after….

  11. Rylee November 5, 2015 at 4:28 pm - Reply

    I use the Kay-ell pronunciation, and I’d rather not use the one that makes him sound like he’s a dark,green, and leafy vegetable. However since skyrim is not an online game, and I’m not with someone who will drive me nuts by saying it like Kale. I don’t really care:) Also you two are hilarious! I can’t wait to see more if you decide to put more out.

    • AlassinSane November 6, 2015 at 2:39 am - Reply

      Actually, you’re going to be spending a lot of time around the villagers of Cael’s village and all of them will refer to him by name so tbf we need to get this sorted quickly, because you would get annoyed. xD
      D’awwwwwwwwwwww fank oo ^^ Should get the last one up soon.

  12. jasminenoden November 5, 2015 at 3:44 pm - Reply

    I’m English and I say it kay-ell. Loving the beta testing videos so far!

  13. River Kanoff November 5, 2015 at 3:23 pm - Reply

    Tara’s eyes are SO much more blue than mine! Jealous!

    • AlassinSane November 6, 2015 at 2:43 am - Reply

      Mwahaha. I would point out that my webcam makes all colouring nigh radioactive BUT I WILL NOT because compliment! ^^

  14. OsushiBri November 5, 2015 at 3:06 pm - Reply

    Dearie, Mara is getting that done as we speak. Tara and I will be posting a video on the animations and what we think >/////>

    • Solora November 5, 2015 at 5:28 pm - Reply

      Oops, my bad, thought it was already implemented partially 🙂 thanks!

  15. Solora November 5, 2015 at 2:49 pm - Reply

    Lol, sorry Bri, I’m from the states but I’m gonna have to go with the Europeans on this one with 2 like the veggie ;P Nice vid guys! Can’t wait till it’s released, and we also see more of Forbidden Love! BUT…. WHERE ARE THE ANIMATIONS :D?!

  16. OsushiBri November 5, 2015 at 2:42 pm - Reply

    We all know its Kay-ell, Tara. AND I SHALL BE SHOWN IN THE NEXT VIDEO. BE PREPARED!!!

  17. Xevnglee November 5, 2015 at 2:38 pm - Reply

    I don’t much care which pronunciation you go with as long as you pick one and stick with it. Inconsistency is so annoying.

  18. Anonymous November 5, 2015 at 2:07 pm - Reply

    These two are brilliant, love the interactions between them both.

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